competed for that. >> we got it down to 7. and then we got it down to 3. >> rose: was frank ghery monk the people. >> frank and david were going to be partners. >> rose: what happened to your beloved frank ghery. >> that is how i met frank by the way. frank decided that for a bunch of reasons he didn't want to continue with it. >> but you know the reasons as he has expressed them, don't you. >> i don't know. >> rose: yes, you do. >> didn't he say something, i mean he felt like he just couldn't do what he wanted to do here. >> well, there are different, i think there are different stories going around. i think it was a combination of how he got along with everybody, without naming specific people. i think maybe it was that, a little bit. >> rose: was it, it wasn't you though. >> no, it was not me, no, hardly. i became friends with him. i never forget i sat with him, and they decided no the to. i said bruce, look, all these other people have never seen a say trust, you and i have. so you know what, that is the problem. so i don't think it was me. >> for many years i think if you look at his documentary about his life. >> i know.